Part III – Getting To Hawaii Using Your TYPs

As I mentioned in the Introduction Post, I get asked a lot about how people can get to Hawaii using their Citi Thank You Points. Citi Thank You Points (much like Amex MRs and Chase URs) are great points to stockpile because they are so versatile.

Introduction – Getting To Hawaii Using Your MRs, URs or TYPs
Part I – Getting to Hawaii Using Your MRs
Part II – Getting to Hawaii Using Your URs
Part III – Getting to Hawaii Using Your TYPs

Your TYPs will transfer to 12 different airlines across all 3 major airline alliances. Those airlines include:

AirlineAllianceTransfer RatioTransfer Time
Air France/KLMSkyTeam1:1Up to 2 days
Garuda IndonesiaSkyTeam1:1Up to 2 days
Cathay PacificOneWorld1:1Same day
Malaysia AirlinesOneWorld1:12-14 days+
QantasOneWorld1:1Up to 2 days
QatarOneWorld1:1Up to 2 days
Eva AirStar Alliance1:1Up to 2 days
Singapore AirlinesStar Alliance1:1Up to 2 days
Thai AirwaysStar Alliance1:1Up to 4 days
EtihadN/A1:1Up to 6 days
Virgin AtlanticN/A1:1Up to 2 days
Virgin AmericaN/A1:0.5Up to 2 days

As I said before, the transfer times are just an approximation based upon data points I could find (as well as personal experiences), but it is important to be cognizant of these transfer times when you are planning your award booking(s).

Another caveat is that although I will be including general advice for getting to Hawaii on your TYPs, your home airport will play an important role in finding availability or determining cost. For example, since Cathay Pacific operates under a distance based award chart, the cost for someone traveling from the West Coast is going to be lower than the cost for someone traveling from the East Coast. I will also assume for purposes of this post that you would be flying into Honolulu (HNL).

Air France/KLM (FlyingBlue)

Air France and KLM share a frequent flyer program called FlyingBlue. Since FlyingBlue is a SkyTeam alliance member, you can redeem FlyingBlue miles for travel on Delta flights. FlyingBlue can be finicky to work with, but they offer an excellent value if you can find space at 30k miles roundtrip in coach and 60k in business.

One-way award tickets are allowed at 15k in coach and 30k in business, but no stopovers are allowed. FlyingBlue is one of the least expensive award redemptions to Hawaii, though low-level award space can be difficult to find – especially in premium cabins.

Garuda Indonesia

Garuda Indonesia’s GarudaMiles program uses a distance based award chart, so your redemption cost will depend on your home airport. Garuda Indonesia is part of the SkyTeam alliance which means you can redeem your GarudaMiles for Delta flights.

From the East Coast of the US, you can expect a roundtrip cost of ~57.5k miles in coach and ~100k miles in first/business.

From the West Coast of the US, you can expect a roundtrip cost of ~42.5k miles in coach and ~70k miles in first/business.

Although the redemption rates may not be horrible, the process for obtaining your award ticket is probably the worst I have ever seen. First you need to call the Garuda Indonesia call center at 021.2351.9999 to place your award ticket on hold. Then you need to download and complete an award ticket application form which you must take to a Garuda Indonesia sales office, in person, and then go back to the ticket office, in person, to claim your award ticket. So how many sales offices does Garuda Indonesia have in the US? Four. Yes, you read that right. Four. Encino, California, Chicago, Houston and New York.

In short, avoid Garuda Indonesia like the plague for award tickets unless you happen to live in or very near Encino, Chicago, Houston or New York and do not mind doing a ton of legwork.

Cathay Pacific

Cathay Pacific’s Asia Miles program uses a distance based award chart, so this is another airline that will depend on your home airport for redemption costs. Cathay Pacific is a member of the OneWorld alliance, so you can use your Asia Miles to book American Airlines flights.

From the East Coast of the US, you can expect a cost of ~90k miles roundtrip in coach, ~145k miles roundtrip in business and ~220k miles roundtrip in first.

From the West Coast of the US, you can expect a cost of ~60k miles roundtrip in coach, ~120k miles roundtrip in business and ~180k miles roundtrip in first.

One-way award tickets are allowed at the half price of the above quoted rates. Again, unless you are based out of the West Coast, can get to the West Coast inexpensively, or have a glut of Asia Miles you want to burn, you are better off transferring your TYPs elsewhere for a redemption to Hawaii.

Malaysia Airlines

Malaysia Airlines’ Enrich program uses a distance based award chart, so this is another airline that will depend on your home airport for redemption costs. Malaysia Airlines is a member of the OneWorld alliance, so you can use your Enrich miles to book American Airlines flights.

From the East Coast of the US, you can expect a cost of ~120k miles roundtrip in coach, ~174k miles roundtrip in business and ~264k miles roundtrip in first.

From the West Coast of the US, you can expect a cost of ~72k miles roundtrip in coach, ~132k miles roundtrip in business and ~192k miles roundtrip in first.

One-way award tickets are allowed at the half price of the above quoted rates. When you take the redemption costs and the reports of the issues related to transferring your TYPs to the Enrich program into account, I think it is safe to say that Malaysia Airlines takes the cake for the worst all around possible option for an award redemption to Hawaii.

Qantas

Qantas’ Frequent Flyer program uses a distance based award chart, so this is another airline that will depend on your home airport for redemption costs. Qantas is a member of the OneWorld alliance, so you can use your Qmiles to book American Airlines flights.

From the East Coast of the US, you can expect a cost of ~72k miles roundtrip in coach, ~144k miles roundtrip in business and ~216k miles roundtrip in first.

From the West Coast of the US, you can expect a cost of ~50k miles roundtrip in coach, ~100k miles roundtrip in business and ~150k miles roundtrip in first.

One-way award tickets are allowed at the half price of the above quoted rates. Even if you are based out of the West Coast, can get to the West Coast inexpensively, or have a glut of Qantas miles that you want to burn, you are still better off transferring your TYPs elsewhere for a redemption to Hawaii as the Qantas redemptions rates are truly horrible.

Qatar

Qatar’s Qmiles program uses a distance based award chart, so this is another airline that will depend on your home airport for redemption costs. Qatar is a member of the OneWorld alliance, so you can use your Qmiles to book American Airlines flights.

From the East Coast of the US, you can expect a cost of ~85k miles roundtrip in coach, ~170k miles roundtrip in business and ~225k miles roundtrip in first.

From the West Coast of the US, you can expect a cost of ~60k miles roundtrip in coach, ~120k miles roundtrip in business and ~180k miles roundtrip in first.

One-way award tickets are allowed at the half price of the above quoted rates. Again, unless you are based out of the West Coast, can get to the West Coast inexpensively, or have a glut of Qmiles you want to burn, you are better off transferring your TYPs elsewhere for a redemption to Hawaii.

EVA Air

EVA Air is a member of the Star Alliance, so you can use your Infinity miles for Air Canada and/or United flights. A roundtrip redemption will cost you 50k miles in coach, 80k miles in business and 125k miles in first.

EVA Air requires that you make your star alliance award ticket booking through their reservation office. With that said, considering that Singapore Airlines has access to most of the same Star Alliance award space that EVA Air has, you are better offer transferring your TYPs to Singapore Airlines for this redemption unless you have a stash of Infinity miles you are looking to burn.

Singapore Airlines

Singapore Airlines is a member of the Star Alliance, so you can use your Kris Flyer miles for Air Canada and/or United flights. A roundtrip redemption will cost you 35k miles in coach, 60k miles in business and 80k miles in first.

Singapore Airlines does allow for one-way award tickets at 17.5k miles in coach, 30k miles in business and 40k miles in first. While not the cheapest of all the options, Singapore Airlines can present a good option in the event you are not able to find space through one of the less expensive transfer partners like FlyingBlue.

Thai Airways

Thai Airways is a member of the Star Alliance, so you can use your Royal Orchid Plus miles for Air Canada and/or United flights. A roundtrip redemption will cost you 50k miles in coach and 90k miles in first/business.

Considering that Singapore Airlines has access to most of the same Star Alliance award space that Thai Airways has, you are better offer transferring your TYPs to Singapore Airlines for this redemption unless you have a stash of Royal Orchid Plus miles you are looking to burn.

Etihad

From what I can tell, Etihad does not publish an award chart for Hawaii redemptions. Since they are not a partner in any of the airlines alliances, it does not appear that it is possible to redeem Etihad Guest miles for an award ticket to Hawaii.

Virgin America

Virgin America uses a distance based award chart so again your home airport is going to be determinative of the redemption cost. Virgin America does partner with Hawaiian Airlines so you can redeem your Elevate points for Hawaiian Airlines flights. Virgin America also allows for one-way award tickets, but the rates are slightly more than half of the roundtrip cost.

From the East Coast of the US, you can expect a roundtrip cost of ~35k points in coach and ~80k points in first/business. For a one-way ticket, you can expect a cost of ~20k points in coach and ~45k points in first/business.

From the West Coast of the US, you can expect a roundtrip cost of ~20k points in coach and ~50k points in first/business. For a one-way ticket, you can expect a cost of ~ 12k points in coach and ~30k points in first/business.

It is important to remember that your MRs will transfer to Virgin America at a 1:0.5 ratio, so the redemption costs will actually cost you double the amount of MRs. This makes Virgin America possibly the worst MR transfer partner for Hawaii redemptions and I would highly recommend you avoid this option unless you are just looking to top off your Elevate account.

Virgin Atlantic

From what I can tell, Virgin Atlantic does not publish an award chart for Hawaii redemptions. Since they are not a partner in any of the airline alliances, it does not appear that it is possible to redeem Virgin Atlantic Flying Club miles for an award ticket to Hawaii.

Final Thoughts

As you can see, the TYP transfer partners offer a lot of options for finding award availability to Hawaii. Hopefully this guide has helped to shine a little light on how to utilize and maximize your TYPs for a trip to Hawaii.

What is your favorite way to redeem TYPs to get to Hawaii?

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